I happen to really like Crobar. They consistently bring in great talent, the management/security is good, and the venue itself is nice. I don't really care if the crowd isn't all music heads. No big room club ever will be. The people who just stand around and sip their martinis aren't gonna stop me from having a good time though. If you wanna dress up and go there, cool; if not, then their dress code is pretty relaxed. I've gone there in a nice t-shirt/jeans and never had any problems getting in. Just don't show up there looking like you just rolled outta bed and you should be fine. Yeah, it does get packed in there, esp. when the big name DJs are in town. I usually have a better time seeing someone like Sander K. who always brings it, and where you have some space to dance. Try going to see some lesser known talents sometime and you'll see the difference. Their sound system isn't spectacular, but it's not bad either. I guess the high ceilings make it tough to perfect the sound in there. Crobar is def. the best big room club in the city, but you have to accept it for what it is. If you're looking for a better vibe, w/ more music heads, then you'll need to go to a smaller venue like Cielo, Sully, etc. But if you're looking to hear some great DJs and be part of a huge crowd, Crobar is a good choice.